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By: nothlithawk777. on 16 Oct 11, 22:52:22
Consultant companies also recruit heavily from? liberal arts colleges.
By: nothlithawk777. on 16 Oct 11, 21:30:19
"What are the critical thinking skills you learn?"I missed? this question.Critical thinking skills include how to analyze&synthesize large amounts of information & how to spot nuance and detail as well as broad themes. Creative jobs,like those in the entertainment, arts & publishing industry,need these sorts of skills. And personally,I just think many employers want interesting,well-read people,who know history and have a little culture to them.They want candidates who "fit in" with them.
By: nothlithawk777. on 16 Oct 11, 21:20:33
Many employers want people who are well-rounded with good people skills,can think on their feet,and can write creatively. I'm attending a job fair in January that specifically targets liberal arts students from certain colleges. I should also? mention that the unemployment rate for college graduates is very low, less than 5%. There is a job market for every major. Law schools & policy think tanks love students with philosophy degrees because it teaches logic, research & analytic skills.
By: nothlithawk777. on 16 Oct 11, 21:20:18
I'm sure that if everyone were an engineer (already a problem;not everyone is cut out for it), there would be either be an oversaturation of the market &/or the median wage would suffer.Funny you mentioned startups bc a recent English major? graduate from my school has started a successful tech-startup in SoCal for smartphone apps.What newspaper,book publisher,entertainment company,law office,museum,non-profit, etc, wants someone who only studied math&science in college?
By: DeJach. on 16 Oct 11, 10:27:40
Yes, I know of a lot of programmers who got degrees in philosophy or? some humanity and ended up fine. They usually regretted it though. (Especially the philosophy ones.) If everyone had an engineering degree I don't think we'd have the same problem at all. It'd be glorious. One thing a good technical degree does that a good humanities doesn't is it allows you to create a product-based startup; I think we'd see a lot more of those. Can you list some jobs and thinking skills?
By: nothlithawk777. on 16 Oct 11, 10:00:28
Most of the people with degrees in the humanities who graduate from my school do just fine. Engineer majors get jobs in engineering,computer science majors get computer-related degrees,etc,but there are tons of jobs out there that simply require? a bright flexible mind,a good work ethic, and above-average intelligence. We still need people with humanities' degrees. It's usually the person, not the degree, that is the issue. If everyone had an engineering degree, we'd see the same problem.
By: DeJach. on 16 Oct 11, 09:45:02
What bugs me most is that the humanitarian degrees don't have the same job prospects that engineering/programming/etc. degrees do. Then people get $100k loans and complain they can't pay it? back. I fully support learning the stuff for the sake of learning the stuff; the main problem is the paper degree in anything being tied with living-wage employment no matter what it is you're actually doing.
By: DeJach. on 16 Oct 11, 09:43:09
I agree. I'm at a private school? myself for computer engineering. (It's also for-profit.) The bad private schools aren't really any worse than the bad public schools, but private schools can usually offer a lot more focus than most public schools that are required to offer a large selection and thus do everything poorly. I like to point out to people that MIT is a private school; it's the one place I'd probably rather be. What are the critical thinking skills you learn?
By: nothlithawk777. on 16 Oct 11, 08:39:35
Math is math & computers are computers no? matter which college you go to (though they are of course taught with varying degrees of success) but a 50 minute lecture on Jane Austen (insert any author) is not equivalent with a 75 minute discussion on Jane Austen. At many? colleges, English/Literature courses are a joke & are a terribly easy extension of high-school composition skills+lecture regurgitation. Whereas at other colleges, these courses can teach valuable critical thinking skills.
By: nothlithawk777. on 16 Oct 11, 08:29:23
@DeJach Maybe I'm biased because I'm an English major at a private college, but I think college choice matters more in the humanities. To have a successful education in? the humanities you need a school with small, discussion-based, classes and accessible (+brilliant) professors. Many cheap schools are already out by these requirements, and many private colleges offer a more rigorous, deeper study into the humanities that will benefit you over other similar degree holders from lesser schools.
By: DeJach. on 16 Oct 11, 05:35:31
I agree in general. My main point of disagreement is probably the degree to which different colleges matter. As always, research and look up the professors. It amazes me how often I hear about community colleges with awesome professors who were very influential 20-30 or more years ago in their field. My beef with the humanities though is that for such a degree where a well-paid, specific, narrow job in the degree is unlikely, it makes sense? to get it as cheaply as possible.
By: nothlithawk777. on 16 Oct 11, 05:20:12
Private? colleges =/= for-profit colleges. And btw, it does matter where you go to college if you want a degree in the humanities. Quality education is not equal across all colleges.
By: deeppurple28. on 10 Sep 11, 17:19:06
I once had a Doctor that had a Coat with the University of Phoenix logo on it! Not the Arizona State University but that Phoenix Online one. I wondered why I didn't get better after that? visit, Last time I went to him! LOL! These schools are pathetic, and the morons who apply to them are just a bunch of lazy retards who want a SHORTCUT! YOU ARE PATHETIC!!
By: deeppurple28. on 10 Sep 11, 17:13:09
Simple, they want a? shortcut through education!
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By: aviftw. on 17 Jul 11, 22:34:38
Tell 'em? Ana, tell 'em!
By: typhoidX. on 12 Jul 11, 00:43:17
Lol... why do they flock? to those diploma mills you say? Well, who could resist those "College in PJs" girls!
By: typhoidX. on 12 Jul 11, 00:36:28
Anna K: "There? are definitely some for-profit colleges that are... okay..." Lol, Really Anna? Name one.
By: punkwasher. on 23 Jun 11, 22:41:53
If you make education a question of profit, you'll have less educated people, you'll have less innovation, you'll have less economic growth. This country's blind dedication to profit has shot itself in the foot. Now education is becoming more and more elitist, meaning you'll have a country full of morons. Of course you can't? compete if there are people in the US that literally believe the world is flat and that evolution is some kind of conspiracy.
By: kirabook. on 12 Jun 11, 14:31:02
I know. I know a few schools down here that specialize in medicine and are highly prestigious, yet private at the same time. And tuition is... really expensive. But the people that go there do get good jobs quick. I like public schools. And community colleges aren't always as 'bad' as people make them to be. They offer more programs for youth and future students in comparison? to bigger colleges. I know this first hand.
By: DeJach. on 12 Jun 11, 09:17:01
It's not like public schools are without their politics as well. Try getting rid of a tenured professor who is horrible. Try doing something that negatively affects the sports team in any way, or the profits of the sports programs such as failing star players. Try giving? some money to the CS department that could buy a couple more janitors for the sports guys instead. Pretty much all colleges are greedy, with money as priority #1, much of it from the gov. They have to be in order to survive.
By: DeJach. on 12 Jun 11, 09:14:19
Ana, you're completely right to be pissed at idiot kids going to private colleges with greedy admins for an english degree, psych degree, journalism, etc. After all, you have a degree in journalism and Master's in political science, two things you can? get just fine and cheap at pretty much any university. But if you want an engineering degree, private schools make perfect sense, especially ones that pay for dev boards.. most public schools require out-of-pocket expenses from students.
By: DeJach. on 12 Jun 11, 09:03:37
Depends on the college. At least 90% of private schools? are shit, sure. But then again, so are 90% of public schools and community colleges.
By: LadySeraph. on 11 Jun 11, 21:07:50
Yeah, I went to a state school, and ended up 25G in debt for my degree. One of my high school friends went to a for profit college, for the same degree, which cost her 60g a year. We both just graduated, but she's got 10x more? debt than me.